Euc Sideroxylon 'Rosea' From Nursery Stock

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Euc Sideroxylon 'Rosea' From Nursery Stock

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Gday folks!

I had spent a number of hours yesterday scouring local nurseries and markets for potential material for the Landscape eWorkshop, when I came across this sad little Euc. The label on the 250mm post said "Euc. sideroxylon rosea" (Pink Flowering Red Iron Bark), and it was reduced to $10 (less 20% due to a sale). The material is largely unremarkable but for the beginnings of a nice, smoothly tapered lignotuber. The leaves are quite a nice shape and size for Bonsai styling.
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The first thing I did once I got it home was to remove the thick layer of mud, sand and silt which had made its way into the pot. Along with the mud, I also removed quite a few weeds, including the particularly noxious Sagina: it appears that the layer of mud had prevented the roots of the weeds from getting down into the soil, which is a very good thing when dealing with something as nasty as Sagina. I continued to poke around the surface soil for some time, trying to locate the base of the lignotuber, and to determine if there were roots present close to the trunk. (In the past, I have encountered nursery Eucs on which the 'surface roots' were merely roots which had grown upwards from tap-style roots deep in the pot. When such roots are present, pruning the roots from the bottom up can mean that you rapidly end up with few or no feeder roots at all... :shock:) Thankfully, this specimen has quite a lot of roots about the base, some of which may eventually form a 'nebari' if I play my cards right.
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Before getting too far into the root-pruning, I cut back the dead portion at the top of the tree, as well as most of the new foliage. The pruning served two purposes in this case: it makes the tree much easier to handle during root-pruning and repotting; and, the reduction of the foliage is in keeping with the idea of balancing the leaves and roots. After I located the base of the lignotuber, I set about hacking off the lower part (about 50mm) of the roots with a small, sharp hatchet, after which I began to work my Stick Of Poking™ back up through the mess of roots. In the end, I had removed around 80% of the roots, including some (but not many) that were finger thick. :shock:
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Once I was satisfied that I could not massacre the roots any further, I cut the base off the original pot and trimmed the edges flat. I then placed a few centimetres of my Bonsai mix into the bottom of a 250 x 150mm bulb pan, set the old pot base onto the soil, and wired the tree into place. (The purpose of the cut-off pot bottom is to prevent any new roots growing directly downward.) I then backfilled with my mix and watered thoroughly, which has caused the mix to settle in and compact somewhat. Just before I took the final photo, I topped up the soil to account for further compaction, and the 'finished' soil level is a lot higher than I expect it to be in future.
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Thanks for your time, and I'll keep you all posted on any progress.

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Great post Bri! You sure do document your bonsai adventures well - An interesting mix of progression, presentation, education and humor :lol:

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FlyBri wrote:my Stick Of Poking™
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Great start Bri looking forward to this continuing progression. " Who Dares Wins" strikes me as appropriate with your approach to our native stock.


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I like it as well, you are becoming a very good educator. This site is all the better for it.

My biggest problem is the OH! bugger syndrome I remember the camera after. Now and again I will remember.

At the moment I have enough trees so new projects will be few and far between.
One of the clubs is having a wholesale nursery visit in April. I go along to help the newer members pick the right stock, as I do on digs.
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Hi Fly
I also have 2 of these in Progress.

One is from Tube stock, the other from a 6" pot so are nothing to rave over yet :-)

In fact the larger one has a Bulged Lignotuber so is quite ugly in fact :-(, I will be planting them both back in the ground this year to maybe (hopefully grow Out rather faster.

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Nice sequence, keep us posted.
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AusBonsai wrote:By the way...
FlyBri wrote:my Stick Of Poking™
Where can I get one?
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What a weapon I want one :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :o I want the vibromax by criisie for you know who :lol: :roll: Pup
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:lol: :lol: :lol:

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Resurrection?

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Gday folks!

I thought today might be an appropriate day to update the progress (or otherwise) of this tree, given the topical theme of resurrection and/or re-birth. THings were looking grim for a while there, but it would appear that all is well: I've got new buds aplenty, including some quite low on the trunk!
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Nice progression and info. I presume you don’t get frosts in your area or you have a hot house.

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PeterH wrote:I presume you don’t get frosts in your area or you have a hot house.
Gday Peter!

Here in the far outer 'burbs, we usually get 5-6 hard frosts per year, and a handful more light frostings. I don't have a hothouse as such, but I have rigged up a bit of frost protection by fiddling (possibly illegally :oops:) with my ducted heating waste vent (see attached photos).
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Why do you ask? Is there something about this species and frost that I should know?

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Because of my micro climate I avoid any major work on natives this time of the year. Last year I had frosts early and they were prolonged over the winter. Any new growth is usually removed by the first frost and the tree struggles. Also I have lost several because late work, the soil freezes causing the young new roots to die.

With your heater vent setup and a milder climate you will not have the same problem.


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PeterH wrote:Because of my micro climate I avoid any major work on natives this time of the year. Last year I had frosts early and they were prolonged over the winter. Any new growth is usually removed by the first frost and the tree struggles. Also I have lost several because late work, the soil freezes causing the young new roots to die.

With your heater vent setup and a milder climate you will not have the same problem.
Gday Peter!

Point taken: it is not about the particular species, but a general care/timing issue. As you point out, we do have a milder climate than the ACT and other inland locations, but our lows may be as much as 5-10C below what is recorded in Melbourne proper. I still cannot recall a night cold enough to freeze the soil (in Bonsai pots or otherwise).

The heater vent thingy has it's advantages, especially as my Fig and Lilly Pillies got through last Winter without so much as a frost-bitten leaf. The down side is that trees tend to dry out: the setup is a long way from the rest of my trees, and Winter can be deceptively dry. That said, I'm rather proud of this little bit of bush mechanics (or will be when I get around to finishing it...).

Thanks for the clarification.

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Hi fly,

Just wanted to point out 1 thing I noticed in your fist post. You say that you covered the lignotuber with extra soil to compensate for compacting which is completely understandable, only I once read that lignotubers should never be potted under the soil level as this can be harmful (somehow???), anyway I've never had any bad experiences and your fine looking, healthy tree may prove otherwise.

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