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Re: Clip and grow.
Posted: July 26th, 2009, 9:51 pm
by Pup
Damian Bee wrote:Thats pouring petrol onto the fire Pup.
Clip and grow technique has been practised for a long time and still is, it also produces some great results. I wouldn't go as far as pigeon holing it as producing bad trees, wiring can also produce bad trees.

Bad wiring will certainly produce bad results as will bad clip and grow. 98% of the world class bonsai that are shown in the Kokufu books. Have been wired, then as I say clip and grow for ramification.
Penjing on the other hand is mostly clip and grow.
Again another twist on and old potato.

Re: Clip and grow.
Posted: July 26th, 2009, 10:06 pm
by Damian Bee
Hi Pup,
That stat you pulled up may be true but wiring is relatively new (100 or so years) to Bonsai and became the dominant form of styling (for reasons unknown to me

). I'm not out to say that wiring is crap, I am trying to learn it (wiring) as best I can. I just want to dig into clip and grow culture in Aus and see what is there. I know that it is not widely practiced as it can take some time to produce good results (probably why wire is preferred?).
Re: Clip and grow.
Posted: July 27th, 2009, 1:25 am
by Pup
Damian Bee wrote:Hi Pup,
That stat you pulled up may be true but wiring is relatively new (100 or so years) to Bonsai and became the dominant form of styling (for reasons unknown to me

). I'm not out to say that wiring is crap, I am trying to learn it (wiring) as best I can. I just want to dig into clip and grow culture in Aus and see what is there. I know that it is not widely practiced as it can take some time to produce good results (probably why wire is preferred?).
Your inverted commer comment needs answering. The reason being it produces better trees.
Which is what all Bonsai practitioners are aiming for. I believe, however if you wish to do it that way, clip and grow.Who am I to say any different.
Good luck