Trident a little different.

[alpineart]

Ripper Trident you got there Ant , been out twisting and shaping a few whips to form some almost instant big trunks . I like the broom styles in various pics as in the site you found , keep seeking and we shall find , keep finding and i'll get motivated .Cheers

[anttal63]

Thanks pal i really dig this tree too. It oozes character but has some issues i need to tackle. I defoliated it as soon as i got it and gave it a good thinning. Come winter it will need some chopping and then rebuilding. Damn long term projects but this one will be worth it! I paid the money for the base and the start of the 2 trunks. Shame about the rest. This tree apparently came from a grower in the Albury area. If anyone out there recoganise's it please say so.

[Greth]

A little termite here and a little borer there and then FIRE! I am very excited about the potential here.

Anyone still want Antonio to do their hair?
Hahaha sorry that was just such a liftable quote Ant.

[Greth]

Just looked at the thread, what a storm in a teacup! A nice tree is a nice tree, and it all just started as a very nice collection of broomish trees, it had become just a slinging match by the time I stopped reading at page 7. However I have an idea which tree you got your inspiration from Antonio, and I think this can be a beauty.

[craigw60]

Hi Ant,
I have spent a bit of time looking at your trident and would like to suggest a a couple of improvements. It has two branches/trunks which still have that really strong field grown feel to them. The one on the right is easy I would just remove it. The left hand trunk would require a little more thought, it would be much better if it had move taper and moved with the right trunk rather than forming the v it does at the moment. I think I would shorten it considerably to create a bit more taper and then grow a new leader which could be wired to follow the main trunk line on the right. These changes would give your new tree more continuity of movement.
Just some thoughts
Craig

[Bretts]

I enjoyed the discussion on the brooms although I haven't looked at it for a while. Walter has a point that informal upright is not common in the deciduous world. How you name the trees doesn't worry me so much though but it is a worth while discussion. I love the rounded canopy of the deciduous tree. Shows great age while still looking pretty.
Nice find this one Antonio I look forward to it's progress just don't cross those branches

[anttal63]

Greth nice one how appropriate, Glad you enjoyed some of that discussion. That is the problem with most discussions; 90% crap in order to find that 10% of gold. Thanks for your confindence i think it'll be a rippa too.


Craig thanks again for a great talk last night. I love your Passion and philosophy for growing trees from scratch. It is crucial that we get our head around that in order for Australian Bonsai to move forward. I really look forward to coming up to the nursery and hangn out with ya. I think i will bring this tree with me and that way we can really chew the fat over it.

Thanks brett.

[Greth]

Finally read the whole thread, lol. It improved after about page 8, and finally a few more actual tree pictures, not just mudslinging. Was it mud or saturated soil, with a variable content of organic matter? I dunno my categories/forms/styles get so confused after a while. i reckon the organic matter was animal sourced and faecal in nature anyways, and there was a lot of it, probably from a male bovine animal.
However lots of lovely naturalistic trees to look at. Not even going to comment on whether they are to be called brooms or informal uprights or pink unicorns. As Walter was trying to say (I think) they are very representative of trees in nature, and not obviously overworked to abstraction. Lots of people have trees which are similar, and I do agree with Walter that not enough is said about these simple looking styles, sometimes we get a bit carried away with the more bizarre looks. They are beautiful and peaceful trees, and worthy of more mention.

This is turning into a lengthy post, but thats all I have to say after reading 12 pages of arguments and seen all those lovely trees, think I am keeping it quite short considering!
Almost tempted to join the forum and post this comment there, but a lot of other reasonable people have been ignored or abused, maybe I dont want to dive into that.

[anttal63]

I'm glad you got that off your chest Greth.

[bodhidharma]

That is a nice tree at that price Ant. I havent read the thread yet(been busy) but will get back to you when i do.

[Greth]

Its those kinds of personal attacks which kill a forum I reckon. I think it tends to happen as a forum ages, people begin to think they have an anonymous free shot at anyone who has annoyed them in the past. Maybe it happens more on international ones, where everyone is so distant from each other they don't have to consider that they may meet, never have to actually stand face to face with their target.
I hope Ausbonsai will never get like that, personally I hope to meet many of you in future years, hope I can walk into a bonsai club or nursery without anyone having a standing grudge against me. But you aint cutting my hair Antonio, Im just a little worried that you will convince me I will stand out in a crowd if I look ravaged by termites and fire....
Dont take it personally, I havent had hair professionally done since my wedding day, 7 years ago, I just let it grow and trim the split ends myself occasionally. I love the feel of going to a hairdresser, but there is really nothing to do if I dont want to lose the long bits! If I went to a hairdresser, what I would really like is to get some fancy plaits to make the most of what I have. The only time I asked a hairdresser I got a blank look in reply, what no cut and colour? Nope, dont want cut, happy with the colour, just make it look pretty?

[anttal63]

Normally i tell those kind of people they are far better off getting that done up the road for cheaper. Not even worth getting my scissors out. If you want long hair and it is going to look right on you. Then please sit there and behave yourself and let me do what i do best.

BUT


For you my darling Greth if and when i get over there, your every wish is my command and thats a promise! Here's a promo look i did a few years ago and then lets get on with the trees its my day off!

[Greth]

Polite version: I dont think that is quite me, Antonio, lol. Looks fine on her, but she is young and suits that wildish style, people would think I was a bush bandicoot if I had that, would cross the road to avoid me. Im nearly 50, cant get away with that kinda thing now. Need to try to look neat and well cared for.
Visualise short thin woman near 50's a few wrinkles and a bit sagging, glasses and trakkie daks and a bad denture wandering along the road muttering to self with a wild bush of flaming improbable red, stopping to bend over every small weed tree.. You would cross the road too, not ask me where I got my hair done!

[anttal63]

Of course you are not her Greth. However, just like i got it right for her the same goes on somebody else. There are many factors that contribute to designing someone's hair. Now Greth thats enough!

[Rod]

G`day all sorry to get away from the hair dressing talk , I love this tree ant it has a great natural look . I would love to see this styled in what I would call a natural broom style. Mate I have done a sketch showing how I would style it , sure there are some flaws in this one - like straight trunks. I think this is a minor problem which can be hidden with foliage, I love the shari . GOOD BUY CHEERS ROD.. PS.I may have made the canopy larger but I ran out of room.

ant's maple sketch.jpg