WA Bushfire

[harry]

http://news.ninemsn.com.au/national/837 ... tens-homes


There's a raging Bushfire in the Margaret River area tonight, hopefully any Ausbonsai members and thier families in the region are Safe and Well, Wishing you all good luck and safe journeys in these trying times,,,,, Best wishes

[Craig]

12 homes destroyed already mate, apparently an escaped burnoff, what a day for a burnoff, think they would have called it off with a 36 degree day forecast , god bless,

[alpineart]

May all be safe from this tragedy , bloody controlled burns over here cause more damage than out of control fires , The DSE Department of Sparks and Embers needs to take a good Blow Torch to those shiny bums running the show from the city .God bless all in the area .

Reguards Alpineart

[Matthew]

DSE (department sparks and embers) love it alpine. I wont tell you what i think of them . My heart goes out to those effected. I now live in quite a vurnable bushfire area and the thought of anyone lighting up in those conditions is just stupidity far beyound the realms of what i thought was possible

[bodhidharma]

Having had black saturday and the Daylesford fire here in Vic, i have nothing but empathy for the people who are experiencing it in my home state at the moment. May they all be safe.

[Bretts]

Devastated to hear this morning what has happened. A magic slice of the West Coast Many houses lost already but great to hear no deaths so far Hope they all can keep safe

[nealweb]

[quote="alpineart"]May all be safe from this tragedy , bloody controlled burns over here cause more damage than out of control fires

Jeez I didn't even realise! Not being a big one for tele I had seen the smoke but didn't know the details. Alpine around here the majority of the out of control burns are caused by 'controlled' burns getting out of control !!! It happens every year. Perth has its arsonists but we have the local fireys and CALM I tell you they are hopeless and it really should be addressed. I hope everyone affected will at least be compensated for their financial losses. For the rest of us it will just mean another big black scar to drive through from another so called 'controlled' burn attempt gone wrong. As Craig said it was the first really hot day of the season, and windy. Today is the same but then its back to cool weather again tomorrow!! Idiots!!!

[Pup]

As has often been said who controls the controllers. Hot 34 degrees strong winds, and they still do a burn

At this stage no human Lives have been claimed, unknown wild life, but lives have been ruined, and the Govenment will claim no fault Bastards


Regards Pup

[kcpoole]

LOL Alpine D.S.E. Great description mate, Bloody idiots !

Hope all that are in path get out OK and that no more houses are lost

Ken

[Craig]

around 20 homes destroyed now and another big fire is just getting going in Martin,near Gosnells, Stay Safe

[Joel]

Even if they do cause most of the out of control fires (which I am sceptical about), you can't compare that to natural fires, but the fires that would occur had the land NOT been control burned in the past. If it wasn't for control burns, the problems would be far worse. Leaf litter would build up until fires burnt so hot that NOTHING could stop them. A lot of native vegetation would not be used to fires at such high temperatures since they would be less frequent than natural and human lives would be lost. Why did they do it on such weather conditions? I do not know. I trust these guys have more expertise than us and wonder what would have happened had they not attempted to reduce the fuel in this area now. It would only have been worse when a fire occurred further down the track.

Cut them some slack.

Joel

[nealweb]

There is an argument that without 'controlled' burns that somewhat reduce leaflitter but also completely decimate all invertebrate animals that used to do the job of composting the leaflitter into a damp healthy peaty mulch that feeds the soil and doesn't burn so well that we would be better off in the long run. Native species are adapted to hot fires, since man started doing regular cool burns the species have changed. Here many dieback prone species like banksia have benefitted but the structure of the forest is different. Most wildlife cannot escape. The forest is a different place with controlled burns. I reckon more clearing around homes and less burning the bush, and a lot more sense when doing it!!! It really has been ridiculous here, every year a controlled burn has got out of control, this one has done a lot of damage.

[krittas]

Sad...really,
I feel for anyone that has been touched by this event and i can understand why there are alot of angry people.... to many D@#$haeds that sit in a office...these so called controlled burn offs shouldnt even be done after late september...it seems to be happening alot lately..what annoys me the most is it effects everyone over here...the state government will now be sued (in the millions) and all tax payers will suffer in the long run as thats were the money will come from..

[ADO]

Very bad for all concerned.
My sister-in-law is a firefighter and she and her crew from Freo were in the thick of it. Her first task was deciding which homes to save and which ones were beyond saving, almost like a triage type situation. She worked for 14 hours straight, had a 2 hour kip and was back into it the next day, this time tackling one of the various fire fronts. She told me the devastation was incredible and almost total in some areas, and that is coming from a fiery with 15 years experience.
Terrible situation and a real risk for those living in rural areas.

Adrian

[phantom]

Joel nobody said not to have controled burn offs, just do not do it on a 36 degree day like dead heads. phantom