Hey,
I bought this tree about 7 months ago. Removed a few branches and did some wiring. It stands currently about 600mm high. I was hoping to get some advice on where to go from here. I was thinking about removing the second branch up on the left (red). The top would be somewhere around the (orange) lines. Let me know what you think. Cheers.
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Re: Seeking advice for Clero
If it were mine I would remove the upright and replace it with the back branch to the R. and the rest just keep growing and formong the pads.
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Re: Seeking advice for Clero
I would look at chopping it where you can see the last twist of wire. The upper middle section lacks taper as opposed to the lower section. I would leave the lower branch for now and see where else it buds first before cutting it off - you may be able to incorporate it later. My eye is drawn more to the branches on the right hand side but again I would leave them for now
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Re: Seeking advice for Clero
hi mate,
clero are a great tree to work with. they back bud like setting fire to a couch thats been covered with petrol!
what do you want from this tree? a taller tree? a shorter tree? more movement? more thickness? chris has given you some good advice in regards to movement and placement for the tree as is. but if you want a stockier tree these guys thicken really quickly, I cut the top of one of mine to rebuild the apex, so far it has gone from a new shoot thickness (around 2mm) to around 12-14mm across in less than 6 months. so if left to grow freely these guys can take off, especially giving room to grow. the root growth is rediculous too, I generally have to repot at least twice a year, they grow strong thickish roots, also develop nebari very nicely. the tree in my avatar is clero. from when I got it, it was just trunk, the pic is about 12 months development.
here is the thread to the triple trunk - viewtopic.php?f=104&t=3297&hilit=triple+trunk+clero
this will give you a good idea of growth.
also, remember to put any thing you cut off into some medium. these guys strike without trying, I think out of all the cuttings I have ever taken (medium to hardwood, soft wood take too but cant see the point with how they strike easy) I have had atleast a 95% strike rate, the other 5% loss isnt exactly loss, moreso me not remembering where I put them or them being soft wood.
just use some diatomite or similar to strike. I did use vermiculite for cuttings with them and they struck but most ended up rottting a little. most were saved, the rotten section cut off and re done as a new cutting, all struck.
clero are a great tree to work with. they back bud like setting fire to a couch thats been covered with petrol!
what do you want from this tree? a taller tree? a shorter tree? more movement? more thickness? chris has given you some good advice in regards to movement and placement for the tree as is. but if you want a stockier tree these guys thicken really quickly, I cut the top of one of mine to rebuild the apex, so far it has gone from a new shoot thickness (around 2mm) to around 12-14mm across in less than 6 months. so if left to grow freely these guys can take off, especially giving room to grow. the root growth is rediculous too, I generally have to repot at least twice a year, they grow strong thickish roots, also develop nebari very nicely. the tree in my avatar is clero. from when I got it, it was just trunk, the pic is about 12 months development.
here is the thread to the triple trunk - viewtopic.php?f=104&t=3297&hilit=triple+trunk+clero
this will give you a good idea of growth.
also, remember to put any thing you cut off into some medium. these guys strike without trying, I think out of all the cuttings I have ever taken (medium to hardwood, soft wood take too but cant see the point with how they strike easy) I have had atleast a 95% strike rate, the other 5% loss isnt exactly loss, moreso me not remembering where I put them or them being soft wood.
just use some diatomite or similar to strike. I did use vermiculite for cuttings with them and they struck but most ended up rottting a little. most were saved, the rotten section cut off and re done as a new cutting, all struck.
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