Where are all the Trident Maples?

[Jason.S]

Hi Guys,

Has anyone come across any trident maple stock around Adelaide? I've heard these are one of the better maples to grow with our warmer weather here but I haven't been able to track one down yet. Is there just no stock available here or is everyone growing them from seed?

[Luke308]

Good luck finding them here in Adelaide I found one a heynes nursery as a bonsai already but for $1000 I had to pass. it has since been sold. I have reverted to buy a heap of seed from ebay, but none have sprouted yet. Ive been told sometimes they take two years to sprout. but i can be patient. Anyway, I juts bought 150 more seeds to plant in autumn.

[Greth]

Ozzy had seed, and sent me some, but so far no success with it, still trying.

[shibui]

You could take a trip and visit Shibui. We already have a couple of regulars coming over from Adelaide to get good field grown tridents. We can also post trees.

[Luke308]

You could take a trip and visit Shibui. We already have a couple of regulars coming over from Adelaide to get good field grown tridents. We can also post trees.

Do you have a website? What's the postage generally on a trident to Adelaide? And when is the best time of year to get them? I'm guessing it would be cheaper if you bare rooted them and wrapped the roots or something similar, which would be when they are dormant? How big are your field grown Tridents? Are your trees already trunk chopped, or are they tall trees that could be layered? and what is the price range of them? Sorry for the 20 questions, I'm just trying to work out what is the most cost effective way to get some nice size trees. one more thing, where are you located exactly so I can work out if a road trip is worth it?



Btw the "free trident maple" I got died viewtopic.php?f=104&t=10192&p=108407&hi ... nt#p108407 at least it was free

[Luke308]

Just had a look and its approx 940kms from my place, could take a swag or a tent and make it more cost effective cos I don't think I should drive 1880kms in one stint, that's about 20odd hours with breaks!

[shibui]

Luke, lots of good questions. Unfortunately many cannot be answered accurately without more info.
Packing and Postage depends on the weight and size of the package and how well you want it packed. From $10 to about $60. Shipping bare rooted in winter will obviously lower the weight and cost.
Tridents from seedlings and 1 cm thick small trees to about 15 cm thick trunks. Most trees have been pruned down after digging from the growing beds. I doubt that Aust post would handle taller trees and they are all cut back when we dig them so they will reestablish better in the pots.
Prices from 10 cm pots at $6 through to poly boxes (trunks about 6-10 cm) at $100 and a few larger, better trunks up to $300. Also a good choice of root over rock tridents.

All my trees are grown specifically as bonsai and have been rootpruned from seedling stage to give the best possible nebari.

Just had a look and its approx 940kms from my place, could take a swag or a tent and make it more cost effective cos I don't think I should drive 1880kms in one stint, that's about 20odd hours with breaks!

I know its a long way but we do have trident maples!
Maybe make a weekend of it? Might even be able to find a bed here for the night for someone travelling that far. You might also consider next winters 'Shibui dig weekend' - learn lots and get first choice of newly dug trees.

[Jason.S]

I've thought about buying seeds online and trying that way too. It seems like many people aren't have much luck with that option either though.

Just had a look and its approx 940kms from my place, could take a swag or a tent and make it more cost effective cos I don't think I should drive 1880kms in one stint, that's about 20odd hours with breaks!

Thanks shibui but its a bit too far for me, specially this time of year with other holiday plans. If I don't have any other luck, perhaps I'll organise some seedlings from you in the near future.

[Luke308]

I know its a long way but we do have trident maples!
Maybe make a weekend of it? Might even be able to find a bed here for the night for someone travelling that far. You might also consider next winters 'Shibui dig weekend' - learn lots and get first choice of newly dug trees.

Im curious as to what the Shibui dig weekend is? can you tell me more about this please?
Thanks
Luke

[Luke308]

If I decide to drive over, I will need to hire a car/van as I would like to make the trip worthwhile and buy as much stock as possible (either how much I can fit in the car, or until my wallet is empty. which ever comes first )

I am interested in getting at least one nice "fat trunked" trident (similar in size to the one in your recent post that had the big root your removed 18 months ago), and then I will probably grab a heap of small to medium sized ones Im guessing. Plus a shari load of seedlings/whips. But I wont know till I get there, if I get there that is. I will have to start saving after Xmas

[bonsaiarmy]

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I don't know what kind of maple this is, but as you can see in the black rings it is sprouting new seedlings faster than I can keep up with them. If you want some mailed over I'm happy to do so.

Steve.

[kcpoole]

I know its a long way but we do have trident maples!
Maybe make a weekend of it? Might even be able to find a bed here for the night for someone travelling that far. You might also consider next winters 'Shibui dig weekend' - learn lots and get first choice of newly dug trees.

Im curious as to what the Shibui dig weekend is? can you tell me more about this please?
Thanks
Luke

Shibui Runs a Dig weekend where he gets cheap labour, and the students get a great education , Win win All round if you ask me
check out his post from the last one he had
viewtopic.php?f=25&t=8779&hilit=shibui+dig

Ken

[shibui]

Thanks for posting that link Ken. We did a rather larger dig than usual last winter so there won't be all that many next year so I'll probably only need 2 or 3 'apprentices' this winter. More as July gets closer.

Steve, that is almost certainly a trident maple and they do self seed quite prolifically as yours is doing.

[Luke308]

Adelaide Advanced trees at cherry gardens has about 20 or so Tridents with coke can size trunks. They are approx 2m tall so will require chopping. But I did discover a beautiful nursery yesterday that I had recommended by a member of my club. It is called Glenberry Nursery which is at Carey Gulley (turn off the freeway at the Bridgewater turnoff). And WOW , I was surprised to just how many Maples they had. They are known as having the largest collection of deciduous and ornamental trees in South Australia, and they are all very reasonably priced. They also have rhododenrons, oaks, elms, cedars, crabapples and many more. I was impressed with the amount of Liquidambar cultivars I didn't even know existed!! They also have about 15 different varieties of Japanese Maple, and they have a heap of trident maples too

I bought myself a trident yesterday as that was what I went for, but if I had the car space, and spare money I would have come home with at least a dozen trees!! I loved the Acer Palmatum "elegans", Acer Palmatum "Osakazuki", Acer monspessulanum (montpelier maple) which I think looks very similar to a trident in leaf shape, Liquidambar styraciflua "rotundiloba", Liquidambar "orientalis", Liqidambar formosana " monticola", Liquidambar styraciflua "oakville highlight", and Liquidambar styraciflua "jennifer carrol" (which was discovered in South Australia). They also had one type of full-moon maple, and the Sango kaku (coral bark maple)

If you plan on visit, allow yourself a few hours of browsing, as I found it so hard to pick just one tree. Overall though it is the best nursery I have been to in S.A

[Stewart_Toowoomba]

good on ya Luke - this is better than a 20 hour round trip with stops!! Hope you get a spotters fee though......