My 2 Tridents... Yin and Yang.

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My 2 Tridents... Yin and Yang.

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Hey everyone,

I've got a photo of my two Trident Maple starters I'd like to show you. Yin an Yang popped into my head as I was typing the topic title, but actually seems to suit these two quite well. They're both about 4 - 5 years old. Mr Cedar there in the background and my terribly sooky Serissa too, please excuse them.

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They're both two of the first trees I ever purchased, mind you I'm still very green myself. We'll start with the guy on the left. I know everything I've read about choosing a tree, especially when beginning, says to stay away from sick or unhealthy ones but I just couldn't help myself. When I saw him sitting in the nursery, literally 4-5 withered leaves on a stick in a pot, I just had to at least try and save him. The only Trident there, and I had always loved them. After a few weeks at home, I guess I must have done something right - he's exploded in foliage, although not as thoroughly as I had hoped but still absolutely loving it. The photo does neither the density nor vibrancy of colour justice. Started watering him properly, removed the moss (growing elsewhere), given him more sunlight, a bit of tlc and Hobart's summer seems to have done him wonders. It's actually taken on a terrible angle, not the front, the trunk has a really nice slow curve which im going to try and keep pronounced as it thickens.

Now, onto Yang. I was in the same nursery about a week later with my little sister, I'd driven her down so she could choose a bonsai with my (attempted) guidance. We were looking through the stock when I saw him. I couldn't believe my eyes. Had I missed it when I bought my other Trident?! Did they have it 'out the back', so to speak, and restocked since I'd been in!? I was shocked, I just couldn't figure it out. Here was another Trident, this one with a beautiful shape to work with (IMHO), flourishing and looking about 100x healthier - for the same price. Pride kicked in and I took it to the counter with my sisters mystery elm to enquire. It had been out the front on show as advertising for their bonsai. I'd walked straight past and bought the unhealthiest one for the same price. Pride took over, and I was owner of my 2nd Trident :tounge:

NOW, being kept in almost literally the exact same conditions as the other (i.e. metres apart) he seems to have gone the opposite way. I know trees don't go by a calendar but isn't it a little early for the leaves to be turning? Even so, why the drastic difference in leaf colour between the two? The photo makes it seem greener than it is I feel, I would say 80-85% of foliage has turned red. I've read comments saying Tridents should still be going strong at this time of year :lost: so I removed the layer of pebbles and threw in a couple of blood and bone pellets and also made damn sure I've been watering correctly but I'm honestly stumped. Same conditions, polar opposites?
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Re: My 2 Tridents... Yin and Yang.

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Hi Teamak

nice by not sure how big you would like them to be but if you would like to develope a good size trunk plant them in the ground for 2 years & just let them grow & you will be suprised how thick the trunk's will get, then when you get them to the size you want do an air layer with the top & you'll have 4 tree's b4 you no it they are very easy to faten up just feed them plenty & stand back a bit & watch them develope.

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Re: My 2 Tridents... Yin and Yang.

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Cheers hacker,

I'm not sure exactly how big I want them yet, I'm naturally drawn to shohin but I think Tridents aren't meant to be that small, more suited as bigger trees with glorious trunks and roots. So yep, I'll be planting them in some nice big deep pots to get some growth first. That's the intended fate for most of my starters. I'm not keen on the ground because the weather is atrocious down here and I need to be able to move them at least a few metres if worst comes to worst. The only thing holding me back is, is it best time of year to be disturbing the root system? I was thinking about slip potting into a well draining soil at the very least, or could I just go the whole hog and repot with no root pruning?

in saying that, I was more worried right now about the drastic differences between the two trees in (what I thought were) good growing conditions.
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Re: My 2 Tridents... Yin and Yang.

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Hi Teamak

slip potting would be fine but make your pots big in size but not to deep so the root's spreed out & not down & give them a good feed, & with the color ther eall a bit different & that's not a bad thing, good luck with what ever you do I'm sure it will work

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Re: My 2 Tridents... Yin and Yang.

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cheers mate. Had a mad few days in the garden a week or so ago and got 4 trees slip potted into some nice roomy new pots, including these two. Good golly gosh trident roots certainly are all they're cracked up to be :shock: they're going to love it. from here on in it's girth, girth, girth!
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Re: My 2 Tridents... Yin and Yang.

Post by bodhidharma »

To answer your question about different leaf colour.. the tree you bought first has put out new leaves, correct. They will stay green longer because they are newer foliage then your second purchased one. Next year will tell the story correctly.
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Re: My 2 Tridents... Yin and Yang.

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Hi Teamak,

Nice work I'm sure they will love the freedom now you have got out of those little pot's & into something with a bit more room so just stand back & watch them grow over the next couple of year's good luck

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