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[billa]

Hi Gang,

I think after 3 great years I have reached the next level of bonsai skill...I think I have gone from 'a guy who likes trees' to now a 'beginner' lol

This will be the biggest tree I have acquired..which is a far cry from the first fukien tea tree I purchased that was 1 cm trunk thickness and 8 cm over all height!!

I really need some ideas...I have a few but I really need more...I have not hurt or killed a tree for at least 2 years now and want to do my best with this one...

Let your creative skills shine for my tree on this cold winter day...

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Much love to you all my extended bonsai family..

[kvan64]

Hi Bill,
If you just dug it up. Chop as hard as you want. If this tree was bare-rooted for sometime without repotting straigth away, I would remove all leaves and pot it now without further ado to it. Let it grow for one full season then chop it as hard as you want.
Carving or chopping hard now, the tree may still survive but there is a great risk of losing it later as most of the energy has be drained of it and will weaken it. More scaring is not good right now.
Cheers
DK

[Andrew F]

Great trunk/base mate, lots of options as far as branch placement goes too.

[bodhidharma]

Great base and start. I would be making branch selection and wiring if you are wanting to start developing it. A good time to also do root work. I think you could have a presentable tree in 5-6 years.

[kcpoole]

for me the Second picture, and the tile to the right when you repot. Will give nice angle out of te ground and then place the next section going to the left
Nice stock

Ken

[Hackimoto]

Can I ask what it is? A pear maybe?

[anttal63]

Hey Billa its a bit rough but you get the idea. carve and taper away the lumpy roots and you should get a clean planting angle. i some how lost the trunk chop and taper during all that copy and paste what happen to a good old sketch

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[Guy]

are you sure that's not a korean plum or something

[Guy]

are you sure that's not a korean plum or something

that should read "looks like a korean plum to me"--is it spikey?

[shibui]

Looks like a pear to me. Pyrus ussuriensis - Manchurian pear or more likely Pyrus calleryana D6. It looks a lot like a graft has failed and the rootstock sprouted and grew on. D6 is quite spiky but floweres well and has tiny (6-10mm) round brown fruit which should suit a bonsai really well.
I'd also recommend Ant's planting angle. Might need to grow some new roots on the right but that trunk line is best.

[bodhidharma]

Manchurian pear or more likely Pyrus calleryana D6

I agree with this I have one the same and they hang on to their leaf. Manchurians around here have a complete leaf drop but the callery seem to hang on to them.

[Guy]

Looks like a pear to me. Pyrus ussuriensis - Manchurian pear or more likely Pyrus calleryana D6. It looks a lot like a graft has failed and the rootstock sprouted and grew on. D6 is quite spiky but floweres well and has tiny (6-10mm) round brown fruit which should suit a bonsai really well.
I'd also recommend Ant's planting angle. Might need to grow some new roots on the right but that trunk line is best.

"Manchurian pear" looks right to me--I'm not even sure if there is such a thing as korean plum

[Steve Warren]

Great stock Billa,

I too am to much of a newbie to give any great advice, however I do like the new suggested planting angle. I would however not go quite as far and maybe keep it a little more upright. Please keep us posted on whatever you do with this beauty.

Regards

Steve Warren

[billa]

To all who gave me their time. THANK YOU.

I have so much fun on this website and love how we can all gel together and pass on knowledge….and give beginner guys like me a chance. Thank you all 

I took your advice and tried to apply it as best as I could.

The plant got shipped on Monday and spent 4 days in transit I was FREAKING out about the health so potted it immediately. Im kinda spewing because I usually take a my time doing everything really slowly. But in this case I think I broke a world record in potting up a bonsai!!

On that note., I spoke to the mail man and quizzed him about how many times his friends kicked my ‘fragile ‘package around in the staff room. He actually said the guy who sent it to me is very clever (eBay seller: Pred8tor) because when you send it express post, that’s when it gets thrown around-hence express…but when you send it regular registered post, sure it may take an extra day as it moves with regular mail but its handled a whole lot better. So massive points to Pred8tor!!!

Pred8tor has a nice nursery in Sydney and sells many awesome trees, pots & tools. The way he packaged it was excellent too...not a single branch broken, good breathe holes, a strong box, many labels & warning /fragile signs and the tree came in good nic. I’m sure he sends his stock as he would like to receive it. So I am forced to mention his excellence and recommend him to all quite very sincerely. He also gave us some extra time to pay! What a champion! I will post some pics of the package so you can see for yourself. I have received a few trees from various ebay sellers who when the say bare rooted…its is actually bare bloody rooted…Pred8tors tree had a good amount of soil secured properly around the roots.

So I got home (speed home) and potted…I have not chopped any branches yet as I’m still deciding- most branches I can flex, some I have no hope…Kvan suggested I defoliate to ensure water retention in the trunk…so I will defoliate all leaves tonite…

I mucked around a bit and tried to take some photos to post up here…so Il post them shortly.

Im a bit upset and I would have liked to spin the trunk to the right a bit, but I guess il do that next time I re pot. The position – Im semi happy with, the trunk base was soooo wide so I was limited in where I could cement the position of the tree.

STILL – anyone want to give me advice on branch structure? Il keep as is?

Thank you folks for seeing me through this! I love the tree!! But no where near as much as I love you all!!!!!!


Peace & love,

billa 

[billa]

Hey guys,

This is a flowering & fruiting tree...should I fully defoliate or semi??

Also I found large tear drop shaped leaves and large Trident shaped leaves? Is this normal?

It was sold as a Himalayan pear tree (pyrus pashia) it has spikes red yellow purple brown ish autumn colour a white almost silver trunk. The more I read the more I get confused!! Look I read this online...what is your diagnosis??

''This could be intresting. The normal nursereies sell the manchurian pear as a green leaf variety with amazing autumn colour and as far as I can tell no thorns. The bonsai Nurseries are selling a manchurian pear that is more of a red leaf variety with thorns My money is on the bonsai Nurseries naming it wrong.

Yes Brett, youre right. The Aussie nurseries mislabeled their manchurian pears until the late 1990s. They corrected themselve in 1999 and finally sold real manchurian pears. What was sold prior to correction were bradford pears. Not as nice unfortunately."