Toona ciliata - Australian Red Cedar
-
- Aussie Bonsai Fan
- Posts: 8
- Joined: May 1st, 2013, 11:02 am
- Favorite Species: oleander
- Bonsai Age: 3
- Location: NSW
Toona ciliata - Australian Red Cedar
Hi there,
I have a huge Australian red cedar at the end of my yard, and every year, a little bit before Autumn, it flowers, then drops all its seeds. These seeds grow like mad wherever they land.
So I decided to pot some of these saplings and seeds.
This one normally has more leaves, but Autumns come around, so yeah.
But what do you think? This one has been in this mug for about a year now.
I have a huge Australian red cedar at the end of my yard, and every year, a little bit before Autumn, it flowers, then drops all its seeds. These seeds grow like mad wherever they land.
So I decided to pot some of these saplings and seeds.
This one normally has more leaves, but Autumns come around, so yeah.
But what do you think? This one has been in this mug for about a year now.
You do not have the required permissions to view the files attached to this post.
Last edited by JamesLee on May 7th, 2013, 9:20 am, edited 3 times in total.
- bodhidharma
- Aussie Bonsai Fan
- Posts: 5007
- Joined: August 13th, 2009, 1:14 pm
- Favorite Species: English Elm
- Bonsai Age: 24
- Bonsai Club: goldfields
- Location: Daylesford, Victoria....Central Highlands
- Been thanked: 11 times
- Contact:
Re: Toona ciliata - Australian Red Cedar
Does the mug have a hole in it for the water to drain. 

"Advice is rarely welcome, and the one's who need it the most welcome it the least"
-
- Aussie Bonsai Fan
- Posts: 8
- Joined: May 1st, 2013, 11:02 am
- Favorite Species: oleander
- Bonsai Age: 3
- Location: NSW
Re: Toona ciliata - Australian Red Cedar
Nope. I just don't water it as often. It seems to be doing fine in the year its been there.
-
- Aussie Bonsai Fan
- Posts: 7884
- Joined: August 22nd, 2009, 8:41 pm
- Favorite Species: trident maple
- Bonsai Age: 41
- Bonsai Club: Albury/Wodonga; BSV; Canberra; VNBC
- Location: Yackandandah
- Has thanked: 78 times
- Been thanked: 1598 times
- Contact:
Re: Toona ciliata - Australian Red Cedar
I have been playing with some for a few years. Seems to take root pruning well but does not ramify very quickly.
Anything except a stick with a few leaves is going to take a Loooong time.
Anything except a stick with a few leaves is going to take a Loooong time.
http://shibuibonsai.com.au/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
- kcpoole
- Perpetual Learner
- Posts: 12289
- Joined: November 12th, 2008, 4:02 pm
- Favorite Species: Maple
- Bonsai Age: 15
- Bonsai Club: the School Of Bonsai
- Location: Western Sydney, NSW, Australia
- Has thanked: 18 times
- Been thanked: 94 times
- Contact:
Re: Toona ciliata - Australian Red Cedar
JamesLee wrote:Nope. I just don't water it as often. It seems to be doing fine in the year its been there.



Ken
Check out our Wiki for awesome bonsai information www.ausbonsai.com.au/wiki
What is Bonsai? http://www.ausbonsai.com.au/wiki/index.php?title=Bonsai
What should I do now? http://www.ausbonsai.com.au/wiki/index.php?title=Newbie
How do I grow a Bonsai? http://www.ausbonsai.com.au/wiki/index. ... _a_Bonsai?
Visit a Bonsai nursery to see some real nice trees http://www.ausbonsai.com.au/wiki/index. ... _Nurseries
What is Bonsai? http://www.ausbonsai.com.au/wiki/index.php?title=Bonsai
What should I do now? http://www.ausbonsai.com.au/wiki/index.php?title=Newbie
How do I grow a Bonsai? http://www.ausbonsai.com.au/wiki/index. ... _a_Bonsai?
Visit a Bonsai nursery to see some real nice trees http://www.ausbonsai.com.au/wiki/index. ... _Nurseries
- MattA
- Banned
- Posts: 3112
- Joined: February 13th, 2010, 2:37 pm
- Favorite Species: Lichen
- Bonsai Age: 26
- Bonsai Club: Killing Trees Inc..
- Location: Lower Hunter Valley
- Been thanked: 2 times
- Contact:
Re: Toona ciliata - Australian Red Cedar
James, I like it
Any chance I can get a load of seed off you?
Long term think more along the styling of Rhus (lacquer tree) Rhus google images Hope that works
Shibui, I am ground growing one at the moment and keen to hear your experiences with them, particularly root pruning.

Long term think more along the styling of Rhus (lacquer tree) Rhus google images Hope that works

Shibui, I am ground growing one at the moment and keen to hear your experiences with them, particularly root pruning.
42 Mice ~Imperfection
"Experience is a hard teacher because she gives the test first, the lesson afterwards." ~ Vernon Sanders Law
"All the knowledge I possess everyone else can acquire, but my heart is all my own." ~ Johann Wolfgang Von Goeth
"Bonsai becomes great when growers start trees they know they will never see in a pot"
"Experience is a hard teacher because she gives the test first, the lesson afterwards." ~ Vernon Sanders Law
"All the knowledge I possess everyone else can acquire, but my heart is all my own." ~ Johann Wolfgang Von Goeth
"Bonsai becomes great when growers start trees they know they will never see in a pot"
-
- Aussie Bonsai Fan
- Posts: 8
- Joined: May 1st, 2013, 11:02 am
- Favorite Species: oleander
- Bonsai Age: 3
- Location: NSW
Re: Toona ciliata - Australian Red Cedar
Oooooh. That looks cool! I think it would be good for one of these.MattA wrote:James, I like itAny chance I can get a load of seed off you?
Long term think more along the styling of Rhus (lacquer tree) Rhus google images Hope that works![]()
Shibui, I am ground growing one at the moment and keen to hear your experiences with them, particularly root pruning.
As for giving you a load of seeds, I live in the Hunter Valley in NSW. Do they allow seeds to be posted? Never thought of it before.
-
- Aussie Bonsai Fan
- Posts: 7884
- Joined: August 22nd, 2009, 8:41 pm
- Favorite Species: trident maple
- Bonsai Age: 41
- Bonsai Club: Albury/Wodonga; BSV; Canberra; VNBC
- Location: Yackandandah
- Has thanked: 78 times
- Been thanked: 1598 times
- Contact:
Re: Toona ciliata - Australian Red Cedar
James - no problem posting seed within the eastern states and I think Matt is not too far from you - but quarantine prohibits most plant material from going into WA and Tas.
Matt, No problem so far with pruning roots though i have only done quite young plants, taking off about half the root ball in late spring. I'll try again this year in late spring or early summer.
There is a tree at one of my worksites that also drops bucketloads of seed every summer.
Matt, No problem so far with pruning roots though i have only done quite young plants, taking off about half the root ball in late spring. I'll try again this year in late spring or early summer.
There is a tree at one of my worksites that also drops bucketloads of seed every summer.
http://shibuibonsai.com.au/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
- MattA
- Banned
- Posts: 3112
- Joined: February 13th, 2010, 2:37 pm
- Favorite Species: Lichen
- Bonsai Age: 26
- Bonsai Club: Killing Trees Inc..
- Location: Lower Hunter Valley
- Been thanked: 2 times
- Contact:
Re: Toona ciliata - Australian Red Cedar
James, I am at West Wallsend in the lower hunter
Shibui, likewise, I am also working with only a young tree. The first rootpruning I took about 50% off, last spring I went alot harder (80+%)
It was a bit slow to get going tho lack of water in that area of the garden may have contributed to that slowness...
Shibui, likewise, I am also working with only a young tree. The first rootpruning I took about 50% off, last spring I went alot harder (80+%)

42 Mice ~Imperfection
"Experience is a hard teacher because she gives the test first, the lesson afterwards." ~ Vernon Sanders Law
"All the knowledge I possess everyone else can acquire, but my heart is all my own." ~ Johann Wolfgang Von Goeth
"Bonsai becomes great when growers start trees they know they will never see in a pot"
"Experience is a hard teacher because she gives the test first, the lesson afterwards." ~ Vernon Sanders Law
"All the knowledge I possess everyone else can acquire, but my heart is all my own." ~ Johann Wolfgang Von Goeth
"Bonsai becomes great when growers start trees they know they will never see in a pot"
-
- Aussie Bonsai Fan
- Posts: 8
- Joined: May 1st, 2013, 11:02 am
- Favorite Species: oleander
- Bonsai Age: 3
- Location: NSW
Re: Toona ciliata - Australian Red Cedar
Thats pretty close by, but I had a look for some seeds, but cant find many. BUT, I did find, on the other hand, about 6 little saplings growing around the yard. I could easily pot them up perhaps.MattA wrote:James, I am at West Wallsend in the lower hunter
- MattA
- Banned
- Posts: 3112
- Joined: February 13th, 2010, 2:37 pm
- Favorite Species: Lichen
- Bonsai Age: 26
- Bonsai Club: Killing Trees Inc..
- Location: Lower Hunter Valley
- Been thanked: 2 times
- Contact:
Re: Toona ciliata - Australian Red Cedar
I would be happy with any seed or even saplings if you don't mind parting with them. I can come to you or your welcome in my garden anytime
Will pm you with contact details.

Will pm you with contact details.
42 Mice ~Imperfection
"Experience is a hard teacher because she gives the test first, the lesson afterwards." ~ Vernon Sanders Law
"All the knowledge I possess everyone else can acquire, but my heart is all my own." ~ Johann Wolfgang Von Goeth
"Bonsai becomes great when growers start trees they know they will never see in a pot"
"Experience is a hard teacher because she gives the test first, the lesson afterwards." ~ Vernon Sanders Law
"All the knowledge I possess everyone else can acquire, but my heart is all my own." ~ Johann Wolfgang Von Goeth
"Bonsai becomes great when growers start trees they know they will never see in a pot"
- dansai
- Aussie Bonsai Fan
- Posts: 1290
- Joined: May 17th, 2010, 5:33 pm
- Favorite Species: Aussie Natives
- Bonsai Age: 5
- Bonsai Club: Coffs Harbour
- Location: Mid North Coast, NSW, Australia
- Has thanked: 4 times
- Been thanked: 140 times
Re: Toona ciliata - Australian Red Cedar
I'm also playing with a few. One I got from a nursery I was working at was in a 150mm pot and had grown out the bottom. It was 2m high and about 40mm diameter. I took it home cutting all root sticking from the pot, there was virtually none in the pot. I chopped it down to 40cm high, potted it up and it shot another meter in about 6 months.
Tough buggers.
Only thing is, it went straight up and fast. What side branches shot, about 3, all perished in hot weather while I was away working. They were pretty spindly.
Have another with beautiful shape to it. Had some interesting branches which also perished in the heat. Both lost their top leaves too, but bounced back with a good soaking.
Tough buggers.

Only thing is, it went straight up and fast. What side branches shot, about 3, all perished in hot weather while I was away working. They were pretty spindly.

Have another with beautiful shape to it. Had some interesting branches which also perished in the heat. Both lost their top leaves too, but bounced back with a good soaking.
Travelling the Mid North Coast of NSW and beyond to attend Markets and other events
www.bonsaibus.com.au - www.facebook.com/TheBonsaiBus - www.instagram.com/thebonsaibus
www.bonsaibus.com.au - www.facebook.com/TheBonsaiBus - www.instagram.com/thebonsaibus
-
- Aussie Bonsai Fan
- Posts: 8
- Joined: May 1st, 2013, 11:02 am
- Favorite Species: oleander
- Bonsai Age: 3
- Location: NSW
Re: Toona ciliata - Australian Red Cedar
Being an Australian species, *Is it native?*, it is tough I know that. I only water mine about once a week in cooler weather. I haven't cut the roots yet. I will do that after winter once it warms up a little more.dansai wrote:I'm also playing with a few. One I got from a nursery I was working at was in a 150mm pot and had grown out the bottom. It was 2m high and about 40mm diameter. I took it home cutting all root sticking from the pot, there was virtually none in the pot. I chopped it down to 40cm high, potted it up and it shot another meter in about 6 months.
Tough buggers.![]()
Only thing is, it went straight up and fast. What side branches shot, about 3, all perished in hot weather while I was away working. They were pretty spindly.![]()
Have another with beautiful shape to it. Had some interesting branches which also perished in the heat. Both lost their top leaves too, but bounced back with a good soaking.
- bodhidharma
- Aussie Bonsai Fan
- Posts: 5007
- Joined: August 13th, 2009, 1:14 pm
- Favorite Species: English Elm
- Bonsai Age: 24
- Bonsai Club: goldfields
- Location: Daylesford, Victoria....Central Highlands
- Been thanked: 11 times
- Contact:
Re: Toona ciliata - Australian Red Cedar
No, it is South american in origin and is a close relative to poison ivy.JamesLee wrote:Being an Australian species, *Is it native?*, it is tough I know that.
"Advice is rarely welcome, and the one's who need it the most welcome it the least"
- MattA
- Banned
- Posts: 3112
- Joined: February 13th, 2010, 2:37 pm
- Favorite Species: Lichen
- Bonsai Age: 26
- Bonsai Club: Killing Trees Inc..
- Location: Lower Hunter Valley
- Been thanked: 2 times
- Contact:
Re: Toona ciliata - Australian Red Cedar
If it is not native why the common name of Australian Red Cedar!!!bodhidharma wrote:No, it is South american in origin and is a close relative to poison ivy.JamesLee wrote:Being an Australian species, *Is it native?*, it is tough I know that.
Its natural range extends from Afghanistan to Papua New Guinea and Australia, in Australia it is found in Queenland & down thru into NSW but alot of its habitat (rainforest) has been cleared.
42 Mice ~Imperfection
"Experience is a hard teacher because she gives the test first, the lesson afterwards." ~ Vernon Sanders Law
"All the knowledge I possess everyone else can acquire, but my heart is all my own." ~ Johann Wolfgang Von Goeth
"Bonsai becomes great when growers start trees they know they will never see in a pot"
"Experience is a hard teacher because she gives the test first, the lesson afterwards." ~ Vernon Sanders Law
"All the knowledge I possess everyone else can acquire, but my heart is all my own." ~ Johann Wolfgang Von Goeth
"Bonsai becomes great when growers start trees they know they will never see in a pot"