What type of Elm?

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What type of Elm?

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Hi,

I've been collecting seedlings from this parent tree.

But not 100% sure, I'm thinking its a Chinese elm..

Photos taken after its been raining, so bark is a lot darker than usual.

Any help identifying would be great..

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Re: What type of Elm?

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Pretty sure you are correct on that B.F
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Re: What type of Elm?

Post by DustyRusty »

Yeah I'd go with Parviola.

As to the darker bark, it does look darker to me. But remember that Chinese Elms are one of those trees that have quite a bit of genetic variation. If the darker bark isn't environmental, it's probably just a genetic anomaly.
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Re: What type of Elm?

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what is the leaf size?
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Leaves look too big - I am guessing celtis but a close up photo would help
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Leaves get up to 5-6cm long. Here is a close photo of leaves...
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im thinking it a chinese elm got a few big ones out the front of my house am this one looks the same :imo:
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Yes I stand corrected - definitely an elm and probably chinese.
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Re: What type of Elm?

Post by Mojo Moyogi »

The other common name for Chinese Elm is Lace-bark Elm, refers to the lace like texture and colour pattern in the bark. Yep, Chinese Elm.

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Re: What type of Elm?

Post by Webos »

I think you've got our answer... Chinese elm for sure. Big fat cuttings can be struck from these.
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Re: What type of Elm?

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Thanks for the confirmation. Will continue collecting seedlings and try some large cuttings (thanks for the idea).
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Re: What type of Elm?

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Spanner in the worx ! Could this be a zelkova seratta ? The tips seem longer and sharper than an elm's ? Just guessing.
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