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Juniper restyle

Posted: May 17th, 2014, 1:40 pm
by kez
Hey folks,

Today I did some work on juniper from the course, this was my semi-cascade and I was never happy with the initial styling, and always intended on turning it into an informal tree.

Today while looking at it and pondering, i decided to go a little further


Here's how it was after it's first styling
IMG_1437 (800x533).jpg
And after today
IMG_1879 (800x533).jpg
Love to know what you all think. I have a bit of trouble getting the tree's I photograph to look as they do in the bark, and this one comes across a bit flat in pictures, but it's close. The top jin my get a bit more shape, but I kind of get sidetracked playing with branch placement and left it half done.

Cheers,

Kez

Re: Juniper restyle

Posted: May 17th, 2014, 3:10 pm
by MoGanic
Hi mate, your going to need to get on that Jinn before it dries if you want some good bends.

Overall the tree looks much better, and more suited to the size of the trunk too. Well done!

-Mo


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Re: Juniper restyle

Posted: May 17th, 2014, 3:12 pm
by kcpoole
Much nicer, but for me I would reduce the top some more and shorten the top Jin

Ken

Re: Juniper restyle

Posted: May 17th, 2014, 3:37 pm
by Isitangus
I agree with ken, much nicer tree and by shortening that top Jin improves appearance also

Re: Juniper restyle

Posted: May 17th, 2014, 5:41 pm
by Guy
good rework--for what it's worth-I reckon If the jins are too long and extend far from the tree, it starts to look more like a bush--older looking trees tend to have relatively thicker but shorter jin(closer to the main trunk) :2c:

Re: Juniper restyle

Posted: May 17th, 2014, 6:02 pm
by Ray M
Hi Kez,
I agree with Ken about shortening that jin. What do you think of also shortening the left jin and fracturing the tips of the jins. This would get rid of the sharp points.

In the following photo I am just trying to give the idea. You most probably wouldn't fracture them as much as shown. You could make the ends a little uneven to represent the idea of them being broken.
IMG_1879 (800x533)-2.jpg
Regards Ray

Re: Juniper restyle

Posted: May 17th, 2014, 6:18 pm
by kez
Thanks for the input folks, some great advice!

I'm not sure what I'll do regarding the jins, I'm not overly hung up on them so they may go altogether, I think the temptation of seeing great jins on trees is to try and include them in ones own trees regardless of whether they fit or not. I'm learning that if something needs to much work to be incorporated into a design it probably doesn't fit.

More than anything I'm just happy with the tree that I get to appreciate now in comparison with what it was

Keep the advice coming

Kez

Re: Juniper restyle

Posted: May 17th, 2014, 7:35 pm
by Boics
I agree with your thoughts Kez.

I think the jins are looking forced and don't really add much to the style.

I do however like the style change and believe you have designed a tree that is both a pleasing image whilst not conforming to a standard "cookie cut" style.
Well done!

Re: Juniper restyle

Posted: May 18th, 2014, 2:32 am
by Neli
Remember Your tree is supposed to be 3D and not 2D, Try to give depth by developing some branches behind..
here are some links for you on how this junipers are styled.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AjVoJK5 ... e=youtu.be

Re: Juniper restyle

Posted: May 18th, 2014, 7:02 am
by kez
Thanks neli,

Don't worry there are back branches, it just comes across flat in the photo's

Cheers,

Kez

Re: Juniper restyle

Posted: May 18th, 2014, 11:52 am
by bouquet
Neli wrote:Remember Your tree is supposed to be 3D and not 2D, Try to give depth by developing some branches behind..
here are some links for you on how this junipers are styled.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AjVoJK5 ... e=youtu.be
Why are all the good tutorial type video's in another language :(

Re: Juniper restyle

Posted: May 18th, 2014, 7:39 pm
by Neli
Sorry, it was not me. :lol: :crybye: :shake:

Re: Juniper restyle

Posted: May 18th, 2014, 7:44 pm
by Neli

Re: Juniper restyle

Posted: May 18th, 2014, 7:49 pm
by Neli
Is this juniper procumbens nana? If it is as it gets older it will have adult scale foliage so please take that into account.

Re: Juniper restyle

Posted: May 21st, 2014, 11:35 am
by kez
Did a little more work on this today,

got it sitting closer to it's intended angle and did some reduction on the jins, as well as starting some shari.
IMG_1898 (800x533).jpg
Love to hear what everyone thinks!

Neli,

no, this is a squamata :)

Cheers,

Kez