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In a discussion with various members on the merits and demerits of Teejay & Bretts juniper. It was said by myself and others that trunk ratio to height was way off.
It was discussed at length.
Brett then posted some Bunjingi pictures. I persisted noting that, that option at the time had not been broached.
I then offered to show some Shohin with trunk ratio to height.
I have also shown some of what is termed by the yanks as Sumo.
Also one Bunjingi with a red tie down that will be up for Auction at the club meeting at the end of the month.

Yet more photos of terrible trees from your average collection Pup. Not. You really do put a young upstart like me in his place.

Looking at those you've posted, I see the benefit in a decent height reduction on mine, maybe some carving too. The wife's not gonna like it, she's fond of that one.

Thanks Kindly Pup I have some small shipaku that these will be great reference for when styling. I think I can see how you did the first one on the right and I might give that a go. If I had taken that juniper back this size to my mates misses she would have chopped me down to size
I still say there is always the option of pushing the height to width ratio. Nothing wrong with going 12-15:1 on a delicate tree

teejay wrote:Yet more photos of terrible trees from your average collection Pup. Not. You really do put a young upstart like me in his place.

Looking at those you've posted, I see the benefit in a decent height reduction on mine, maybe some carving too. The wife's not gonna like it, she's fond of that one.

Then leave it in a bigger pot to Grow on slowly, and buy another one to work on a smaller tree

ps Verry nice Pup

i think i have a little somethin to say here, and tell me if i've completely missed the point again...

but i think that there is another factor to consider when dealing with the trunk:height ratio's and that is

canopy or crown size

if i look at a bunjin with delicate female features and see a wide canopy, it tells my eye that there should be a thicker trunk... or a much smaller canopy to get at least some power out of the trunk.

the same goes for sumo, it would look silly having tiny little pads and crown on a massive thick trunk, but get the size of pads and canopies right and you can make your tree believable whatever the ratio's of trunk and height.

i hope i have contributed in some way...

Bretts wrote:Thanks Kindly Pup I have some small shipaku that these will be great reference for when styling. I think I can see how you did the first one on the right and I might give that a go. If I had taken that juniper back this size to my mates misses she would have chopped me down to size
I still say there is always the option of pushing the height to width ratio. Nothing wrong with going 12-15:1 on a delicate tree

I notice that the rules and design principles are changing Brett. Good for you

Nice trees pup, you must be a busy man maintaining the amount of quality trees that you have!

Stop doing so many emoticons I can't work out what you are saying Pup. It is like talking to deranged man that has five different emotions on his face

That's what confusing and older gentleman does to you, he confuses you right back

Pup

There must be alot of confused people around

Bretts wrote:There must be alot of confused people around

Go on I will give you the last word

Ummmmm. Na got nuthin