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WA Japanese black pines

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This weekend we had Joe Morgan-Payler from Melbourne as the visiting tutor. For workshops he was challenged with some natives of course, but he also was pleasantly surprised by some locally grown Black Pines.
By one of the club members he has been growing JBPs for a few years from seed these ones are about 30cm high and as you can see the bases are quite good.
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Hope you like them.

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Thanks pup, they are some very nice material and it was a pleasant surprise to find jbp material of this quality in the west.

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Jow wrote:Thanks pup, they are some very nice material and it was a pleasant surprise to find jbp material of this quality in the west.

Joe
Very hard to find good stock over here Joe. Even harder where I am located, so growing your own is the only way really...
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Love the third tree...
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WOW! Very hard to get this type of great materials any where I guess.
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Such great little trees!

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Amazing stock! Do they recommend any techniques to produce trees like this?
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mjhc wrote:Amazing stock! Do they recommend any techniques to produce trees like this?
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Hi Michael,
No special techniques!
It's just hard work and a bit of luck, trees have been growing from seed - then into different size pots - then in the ground for roughly 12 - 15 years (colanders!!!)
after that into bonsai training pots - then into colander special substrate 50% pumice and 50% akadama (fantastic drainage).
Now starts the process of ramification/styling and after that into final bonsai pot. Easy as that ...:lol: ...... just kidding....... :shake:
Long process, but all worthwhile in the end and oh so rewarding!!! :tu: :tu:

You can read about in the book "Pines, Bonsai Today Master Series" article by Kusida Matsuo.

Thanks Pup for posting, nice shots!!!!

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So nothing was done to the trees? :lost:
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bonsaisensation wrote:So nothing was done to the trees? :lost:
Almost!! :lol: :lol:
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Thanks for that Rolf. It's very interesting you mention that article because that's what I thought of when I saw the trees - though his results are inspiring, his time lines seem Unachievable. I'm going to give it a shot over the next few growing seasons and see where mine get too. If they are half as good as yours I'll be pumped. Good luck with the trees moving forward and thanks for the break down of timelines and mixes. I guess it still proves that true wealth is time.
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bonsaisensation wrote:So nothing was done to the trees? :lost:
I think he meant was any styling done? I too are interested.
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dansai wrote:
bonsaisensation wrote:So nothing was done to the trees? :lost:
I think he meant was any styling done? I too are interested.
Hi dansai,

Any styling in the sense of refinement no, you grow with sacrifice branches to thicken the lower trunk (tachiagari) and developing good surface roots (nebari), early wiring in the seedling stage so you have your basic structure, otherwise they would be growing straight!! ;)

Keep as many branches close to the bottom, as the black pine will grow always stronger on the top!!!!

Important: Apart from that you have to watch for branches developing from the same point on the tree trunk, otherwise you'll end up with reversed taper or ugly thickening.

I hope these links will also help and encourage you to try it for yourself:

https://bonsaitonight.com/2014/03/25/in ... colanders/

https://dupuich.smugmug.com/Bonsai/Deve ... se-black-/

https://dupuich.smugmug.com/Bonsai/Deve ... lack-Pine/

https://dupuich.smugmug.com/Bonsai/Deve ... lack-Pine/

Happy growing!! :wave: :tu:

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@rolfster you have created some fabulous stock there, congratulations, and thanks for the explanation and links.

Colour me very impressed!
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Thanks rolf for the links. I do have the book aswell. I was more asking if styling was done with joe on your stock and if so do you have any pictures.
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