A 27 Year Old Elm?

[Leigh Taafe]

Here is a picture of a chinese elm that has been field grown......it is possibly 27 years old !

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[Jamie]

i think i get where ya going here leigh, being the first to respond i think the tree is nice, could you possibly give us some dimensions if possible, not much in the picture to reference off.


jamie

[stubonsai]

Subscribed, be interested to see where this goes. I assume this relates back to the elm I posted here: viewtopic.php?f=104&t=3265

cheers
Stu

[Leigh Taafe]

Sure - I will get my ruler out. Yes, it does relate back to that tree. I am not having a dig at you stubonsai - I just think the age of that tree has been misquoted. I think the tree is great - and probably value for money. I just dont believe that the tree is 27 years old. Like I said - not having a dig at you stu - or the tree - I like the tree.

Cheers,
Leigh.

[stubonsai]

Hi Leigh

No worries Leigh, no offence taken.
As a new bonsai person I'm very intereted in all the l can learn and the aspect of age guessing a tree based on its looks and development is an important tool when considering trees to purchase.
Would it be of help if I got some dimensions of my elm?
Thanks for the positive comment also!

cheers
Stuart

[LZRD84]

dimensions would help.

[Leigh Taafe]

Just went and measured mine.

Here ya go - 900 high (incl. pot) 800 wide 600 deep - circumference of trunk is 700mm

I dont know how old mine is - but I took a guess - I have had it about 8 or 9 years - the guy before me might have had it about 6 or 7 years and by the size of the trunk I figured maybe 8 or so years in the ground after being grown from a cutting in a pot for a few years - the guy I bought it from bought it from a field grower. So - it might be around 25 to 27 years old.

Cheers,
Leigh.

[Bretts]

Nice to see you post a tree that hasn't been stolen yet Leigh
How about a bigger picture?

[Jamie]

so its about 222mm across the base (diameter) how wide across the base is yours stu?

i like both trees but i think that it would be quite possible stu's tree is 27 years old, even if it was ground grown for 8 years then developed in a pot for the rest of the time it could answer the reasoning behind looking slightly smaller?


jamie

[Leigh Taafe]

This is an old picture - taken in October 2007.

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[Jamie]

leigh, just a thought.

have you thought about taking off the sharp apex and making it a little more rounded? i would think this would give it a more balanced feel and a more "natural" look.

just a thought


jamie

[Jamie]

you could even air layer it and get a sweet shohin from it

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hope ya dont mind i did a quick virt

jamie

[Leigh Taafe]

Great thinking mate! Skip and I had a discussion about this tree the night that this picture was taken - and that is exactly what we came up with! I will give it a tidy up in the coming weeks and take another picture - it has had a couple of years growth since this pic - I still havent reduced the top - but I havent ruled it out!

Cheers,
Leigh.

Yes - a very tidy shohin would come from the top of this one!!

[Jamie]

cool mate

great minds think alike

i reckon the layer would be the way to go then if you were ever going to show the tree you could have the shohin as a companion accent the parent and the child


jamie

[Leigh Taafe]

Parent and child - I like that idea mate - good one!