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DESHOJO
Posted: January 16th, 2010, 5:55 pm
by LZRD84
Re: DESHOJO
Posted: January 17th, 2010, 8:02 am
by kcpoole
I love the colour of Deshojo

Looks healthy too
Looks like you have it in a largish pot which is good. but like your Crab, it needs to be chopped back and regrow the top to generate taper and interest in the trunk line.
Same as the Crab, Grow, Chop back Grow again 'till ware happy with the trunk line and size, and then grow the foliage to shape
Ken
Re: DESHOJO
Posted: January 17th, 2010, 9:20 am
by NathanM
Mate, love the colour! I've almost given up on Japanese maples, but I want to try a few of these. Harder to find up here.
I would like to see a pic take a bit further back, jsut see the whole thing. Agree with Ken though, it will need to be chopped back.
Re: DESHOJO
Posted: January 17th, 2010, 9:36 am
by bundyfisher
Nice tree

Grafted? I tried one similar in toowoomba got cold enough but haaated wind/breeze/air movement the graft was well placed and was coming on nicely until someone needed it more than I did . If it is grafted onto a palmatum and the join is good you will have an excellent tree ,plus plenty of grafting practice with the offcuts .Look forward for updates
Cheers
Tony
Re: DESHOJO
Posted: January 17th, 2010, 10:07 am
by kcpoole
bundyfisher wrote:Nice tree

Grafted? I tried one similar in toowoomba got cold enough but haaated wind/breeze/air movement the graft was well placed and was coming on nicely until someone needed it more than I did . If it is grafted onto a palmatum and the join is good you will have an excellent tree ,plus plenty of grafting practice with the offcuts .Look forward for updates
Cheers
Tony
Mine is Not grafted

Ray Nesci Propagates them himself and guarantees they are not
Did not think Deshojo would do any good in QLD
Re: DESHOJO
Posted: January 17th, 2010, 10:38 am
by bundyfisher
Mine survived and grew

toowoomba gets similar coldness to sydney in winter but the summer wind can knock them for six ,I have a trdent here in bundy that is not very happy

nowhere near the winter of toowoomba
Cheers
Tony
Re: DESHOJO
Posted: January 17th, 2010, 11:07 am
by Jamie
bundyfisher wrote:Mine survived and grew

toowoomba gets similar coldness to sydney in winter but the summer wind can knock them for six ,I have a trdent here in bundy that is not very happy

nowhere near the winter of toowoomba
Cheers
Tony
whatever you do with ya trident tony, DONT defoliate it! i am pretty sure thats how i have lost mine!
nice colour on the deshojo but there is no way they will survive here in QLD especially where we are tony, and nath for that matter. they are just to delicate for the hot months we get
jamie

Re: DESHOJO
Posted: January 17th, 2010, 2:30 pm
by LZRD84
its grafted. the chop that was done is only 10 inched above the graft. how close to the graft can i chop before i start frowning...?
the graft is nearly perfect. i'll get some good photos of the graft, and also of the tree from a bit farther back.
Re: DESHOJO
Posted: January 17th, 2010, 3:16 pm
by LZRD84
graft.
step back.

Re: DESHOJO
Posted: January 17th, 2010, 3:30 pm
by kcpoole
I would cut back to the first nodes above the graft. it is quite straight and you have to branches there. I would use the one on the Right side of the tree as the new leader heading back over the Base of the trunk, and the other branch I would use as the first Outside branch. when you the leader is of sufficient height i would repeat the process and get the leader moving again with the other there branch becoming a branch on the outside again
In the final design, you could have some foliage slightly cover the trunk where the graft is to hide it completely from view as long as the first branch is low enough
Re: DESHOJO
Posted: January 17th, 2010, 8:14 pm
by shibui
.....or layer it just below the graft so the graft will be disguised by the new nebari. For this one I would make the layer the same angle as the graft union and have the tree coming from the ground at an angle.
Re: DESHOJO
Posted: January 17th, 2010, 8:36 pm
by kcpoole
shibui wrote:.....or layer it just below the graft so the graft will be disguised by the new nebari. For this one I would make the layer the same angle as the graft union and have the tree coming from the ground at an angle.
Yep that would work too
Ken
Re: DESHOJO
Posted: January 18th, 2010, 12:53 pm
by LZRD84
going to try and air layer it, will blog it in a new thread...