collected celtis-broom style progression

[Jamie]

hey people,

as some of you know a while back me and a few of the other boys got out and collected some trees, this is one of them that i have decided to style as a broom!
it just has the makings of it i think, great nebari for it, dead stright trunk, perfect!

so obviously after collection they got planted in grow boxes, and placed in the shade, still being in the shade this one boomed! and i mean boomed!

this is the nebari at the time of collection

mine2.jpg

i chopped it down by another 6 inches (150mm) after it was popping buds

Cnsb.jpg

and after they had extended to approxmately 4 inches (100mm) or more i decided to do this

Celtis broom.jpg

i have applied a home made cut paste as i want the cambium to roll over, it is on for now just to keep things moist, who knows it might even pop from the wound, that would be a treat! but if it doesnt thats ok. the cut made is an offset V and it also slopes to the back of the tree, this will allow any water to run off without pooling and causing any rot.
i will do a minor carve out soon to help it roll over and heal nicely and wiring will be done after i do the minor carve out

trunk height now as is, is approx 140mm, trunk width above the nebari is 50mm, the nebari stretches right out to about 250mm, from memory, i will measure properly and get exacts

so until i get to that stage i cant post any more pics!

stay tuned for the next episode, the way these things are booming it wont be long


jamie

[Jamie]

well i got a bit of extra time more than i thought so i got in and carved out the cut so that when it heals it will be more natural, and i also wired the young shoots, it doesnt look like much right now but with all the chopping back it has received it will respond realy well i think

i know it doesnt look like much now, just wait until it thickens up and really gets going

celtis broom wired.jpg

cheers


jamie

[Glenda]

Great work, Jamie.

[Jamie]

i know its a long way off a pot right now, but i was just wondering what sort of pot it will look good in

so rectangle and round have been done so far, and oh the tree aswell has been filled in, im not sure why the bark is so grey but thats how it come out?

celtis virt 3.jpg

celtis virt2.jpg

personally i am liking the round pot, maybe a bit deeper, it is going to need to be on the larger side as the root spread is quite large

let me know your thoughts


jamie

[kvan64]

As I expected from your first post about this stump, it's gonna be a real big gun! Just marvoulus!

[Jamie]

As I expected from your first post about this stump, it's gonna be a real big gun! Just marvoulus!

just wait till you see what i do to the other one!

that will be another thread, but i got some good plans for it, more of an informal upright look, tight pads and lots of them


jamie

[Jester]

Hi Jamie, believe it or not I have not seen this technique before. From your experience, what do you think is the likelihood of shoots coming out of the tips of the V's????

[Jamie]

Hi Jamie, believe it or not I have not seen this technique before. From your experience, what do you think is the likelihood of shoots coming out of the tips of the V's????

well, on the other on i have collected it has shoot from the cut point, so i am hoping so, if it was an elm i would be 100% sure it would but being celtis, not that positive, probably 70-30 on it shooting from the tips, as longs as the bark rols over and heals where the cut is it will be possible the get shoots from it, otherwise i will have to thread graft some, which wont be a major problem as celtis extend rather quickly and easily and fatten up quite quickly to, but this technique is one way to make a broom style tree look more natural, in the forking off of branching any ways.
on that note there will be a lot more new shoots to choose from in the next coming weeks that i can always cut down to any ways

cheers for the question mate
hope my answer helps!


jamie

[Greth]

Actually I prefer the rectangle, but shallower, somehow the first pic looks just too rounded everywhere, could be the stand is coming into the circle too. I think contrast of shapes would help, if the crown really is going to be that rounded.

[Jamie]

Actually I prefer the rectangle, but shallower, somehow the first pic looks just too rounded everywhere, could be the stand is coming into the circle too. I think contrast of shapes would help, if the crown really is going to be that rounded.

im not sure about that mate, i am thinking it might be a little less rounded and more domed then the virt, i intend on having it spread out past the nebari plus more.

jamie

[hugh grant]

When you do a v cut and you want to get it to bud around the edge of the cut or on the cut there is the method of covering the tree in something that will block light hitting the trunk but leaving the top of the stump arould the V uncovered. This let's the light only penetrate the top and it should shoot off from the top instead. I havnt done this before but learnt it from someone in our club who has been teaching me and helping me with bonsai for the last 3 years. I am going to try this method though as I have a tree that I am going to do a V cut on to create a broom style some time this year.

Hugh

[Jamie]

that sounds like an interesting technique mate! i might have to ponder on it all and try something along those lines, i have seen it work even with the cut paste on with elms, i know it is not an elm but it is still a rampant grower so i think it will work sweet anyways.


jamie

[bundyfisher]

Good Work Jamie I like where you are heading ,I've seen the base and yes with your care and attention it will be a classic my celtis is where your new shoots pic was at ,I moved it into full sun yesterday ,should start to kick along nicely
Cheers
Tony

[Jamie]

Good Work Jamie I like where you are heading ,I've seen the base and yes with your care and attention it will be a classic my celtis is where your new shoots pic was at ,I moved it into full sun yesterday ,should start to kick along nicely
Cheers
Tony

cool thats great news that it has popped, i dont know why mine popped so much quicker than yours, they were practically bare rooted
but seeing as it has been a few weeks i might start introducing some morning sun to it and eventually get it in full sun as it has been in full shade the whole time, i am thinking once it gets full sun it is gonna boom !@!


jamie

[bundyfisher]

I take that as you are keen for a big spring dig