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Japanese Black pine Air layer
Posted: February 10th, 2010, 5:42 pm
by Pup
G,day People I have just done a quick look though propagation threads for Air layering JBP's.
At a friends yesterday doing some mutual work on tree's ( picked up some more Hokkeido elm stock ) I was asked if I knew how successful air layering Japanese Black pines was.
When to do it and what method was best. Not being a JBP person I could not answer. So what I am doing now is asking.
I have read as has my friend what is available in varying books.
What I would like is from personal experience, like when you did it what medium was used was it the ring bark method or wire tourniquet.
Did you use a drip feed for the watering or the standard cling wrap with sphagnum moss.
I would be very grateful as the friend is one in a million, and if can help, with your help it would be wonderful.
Cheers looking forward to a lot of replys of successful air layers

Pup
Re: Japanese Black pine Air layer
Posted: February 10th, 2010, 10:24 pm
by kcpoole
I did some and posted the results on here somehwere.
It was a youngish trunk that I layered
Used the Sphagnum moss and Peat in a pot after ringbarking. Put it on in Autumn and took it off late winter ( Early spring). Watered daily with all my other trees
all were very sucessful and are thriving
Ken
Re: Japanese Black pine Air layer
Posted: February 10th, 2010, 10:48 pm
by Pup
kcpoole wrote:I did some and posted the results on here somehwere.
It was a youngish trunk that I layered
Used the Sphagnum moss and Peat in a pot after ringbarking. Put it on in Autumn and took it off late winter ( Early spring). Watered daily with all my other trees
all were very sucessful and are thriving
Ken
Thank you for that Ken, now I can tell her so she can get every thing ready for April.
Cheers

Pup
Re: Japanese Black pine Air layer
Posted: February 11th, 2010, 11:24 am
by Elias
Hi Pup,
I have a JBP air layer on at the moment, I have yet to be successful, as my first attempt didn't work, but I think I know what the problem was anyways the layer has been redone and still waiting...
Here is a thread I found quite helpful on bonsainut.
http://bonsainut.com/forums/showthread.php?t=935
Cheers,
Elias
Re: Japanese Black pine Air layer
Posted: February 11th, 2010, 8:09 pm
by anttal63
Elias wrote:Hi Pup,
I have a JBP air layer on at the moment, I have yet to be successful, as my first attempt didn't work, but I think I know what the problem was anyways the layer has been redone and still waiting...
Here is a thread I found quite helpful on bonsainut.
http://bonsainut.com/forums/showthread.php?t=935
Cheers,
Elias
Mine has finally taken El. after a second attempt also . Ya gotta make sure the ring bark is way wide enough and you also get every little scrap of cambium off. As both i and El have learnt. Would i do it again? Yes when i set up a stock tree that i have no intention of styling except for taking layers. Otherwise too much time wasted on the good tree. JMO

Re: Japanese Black pine Air layer
Posted: February 12th, 2010, 2:12 pm
by Steven
Hi Pup,
Daviet has an excellent post on here explaining and showing pictures of his technique for
Air Layering a Black Pine.
Regards,
Steven
Re: Japanese Black pine Air layer
Posted: February 12th, 2010, 9:54 pm
by Pup
Steven I thank you very much for that. Not being a JBP fan I had not read it. Now when I go to another workshop at Susies I will be able to show her. Hopfully get a new member for us.
Cheers

Pup
Re: Japanese Black pine Air layer
Posted: February 12th, 2010, 10:32 pm
by sreeve
Hey Pup, Say hi to Susie from the East Coast
Regards
Steve
PS - Did you raid the meeting at her place on the 24th January?
Re: Japanese Black pine Air layer
Posted: February 12th, 2010, 10:42 pm
by Psymo
This was what Ken showed us
viewtopic.php?f=104&t=1754
Pup, i'll post a pick of the Melaleuca i layered, i'd like to hear your thoughts.
Re: Japanese Black pine Air layer
Posted: February 12th, 2010, 11:31 pm
by Pup
sreeve wrote:Hey Pup, Say hi to Susie from the East Coast
Regards
Steve
PS - Did you raid the meeting at her place on the 24th January?
No not that one thats for Satsuki's. Susie is off to Brisbane this month for some reunion so I wont see her again until march. Will pas onyour regards Steve.