My first Firethorn dig in QLD

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My first Firethorn dig in QLD

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This is one of the plants I mentioned earlier. As bretts advised, I won't think of the bigger one until spring next year :) I hope that this will survive.
I like this one better as it has some nice movements and appears to have a reasonable base and the fruits are more red/orange. I have cut down 70% of its branches, leaves and all fruits. It is soaking in water + seasol and ST. I currently don't know what soil mix to use for it as I am having some fungal issue with soil mix at the moment. Maybe Bretts and others could suggest. I currently have 5mm scorias and river red pepples.
I'd like to keep most of the main branches now anh layer them latter for more trees.
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Re: My first Firethorn dig in QLD

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Hey Kvan Great find the movement is really interesting. Looks like the roots need some work but that can be soughted in time once it has recovered. Love the red fruit. I hope mine has red fruit but I think that is wishful thinking.
I will hunt around for some more soon!
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Nice base there DK!!! Hope it survives for you mate :D Where did you find it??
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Any suggestion for the soil mix Bretts? Will 5mm scoria be useful as part of the mix?
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I really like the movement, could turn out really nice.

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NathanM wrote:Nice base there DK!!! Hope it survives for you mate :D Where did you find it??
Thanks Nathan, It's on my distance uncle's property :) Hey, I saw a much much bigger tree in Ipswhich near my work. I look at it twice everyday but never seen the owner home. I'm thinking of asking for it one day before next spring :)

Bretts, Any suggestion for the soil mix? Will 5mm scoria be useful as part of the mix?
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Considering that pyracantha tends to have straight shoots you have found a fabulous plant. Such lovely movement in the trunk. It's going to be great fun working with that especially since pyras develop quickly and you could have a nice bonsai in under two years. Good hunting!!! Green with envy since I love Pyras.
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Yes I think 5mm scorio will be very beneficial in your mix for this. I once used 10mm scorio and bags off potting mix(unsifted) to pot up wisteria and and orange tree that was ripped out of the ground for a pool installation. Both recovered very well. Both are still in the same mix two years later!
I would love to have a supply of 5mm scorio but I have used crushed scorio at 100% last season and it did not go so well.
Ok enough confusing you. 5mm scorio will be good as a filler I reckon but leave it at that. 50 /50 sifted potting mix and grit (sifted 1-4mm rock or sand). Then add 1/3 scorio.
Seeing as it is bare rooted make the mix drain well is my best bet.
The best results I have had is keeping the root ball intact and using a less draining mix around the root ball to match the clay around the collected root ball but that is for later reference :D
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Damn Kvan...thats a really nice firethorn....near perfect movement and taper...wow :D couldn't ask for more but for it survive and thrive. never used scorcia but if u can get your hands on some diatomite would be great especially with that fungus problem u got at the moment.
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great find :o i think it would look better at my place :lol:
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Bretts wrote:Yes I think 5mm scorio will be very beneficial in your mix for this. I once used 10mm scorio and bags off potting mix(unsifted) to pot up wisteria and and orange tree that was ripped out of the ground for a pool installation. Both recovered very well. Both are still in the same mix two years later!
I would love to have a supply of 5mm scorio but I have used crushed scorio at 100% last season and it did not go so well.
Ok enough confusing you. 5mm scorio will be good as a filler I reckon but leave it at that. 50 /50 sifted potting mix and grit (sifted 1-4mm rock or sand). Then add 1/3 scorio.
Seeing as it is bare rooted make the mix drain well is my best bet.
The best results I have had is keeping the root ball intact and using a less draining mix around the root ball to match the clay around the collected root ball but that is for later reference :D
Thanks Bretts. It had a good rootball but I thought I need to rearrange some odd roots :)
bonsai4life wrote:Damn Kvan...thats a really nice firethorn....near perfect movement and taper...wow :D couldn't ask for more but for it survive and thrive. never used scorcia but if u can get your hands on some diatomite would be great especially with that fungus problem u got at the moment.
I tried but could not allocate some diatomite in Bris. Do you have some source?
Skippy wrote:great find :o i think it would look better at my place :lol:
That for sure Skippy :) but it may not stand out as you already have many great trees at your place. I only have very few.
MelaQuin wrote:pyracantha
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that is a cracking trunk DK :D and the branches will make wicked little shohin too ;) ;) i hope this one pulls through for ya, there shouldnt be a prob with that tohugh, i reckon it will come through really strong and it wont be long before you can start building :D


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Nice find. Pyracantha are pretty tough customers so you should have no drama keeping it going, looks like you have lots of roots.
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Nice find. There's a vege gardening website (Productive Gardens) that sells and posts diatomite in Bris. Think it was $30 total for 20L.

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Great find Kev, ya wont see too many like that. good luck! :D ;)
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