Air layering, two methods
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Air layering, two methods
I have done two air layers in the first week of November (Cup day), now Australia day (tomorrow) it is time to cut.
Both trees were similar in size and health, one Seiju elm, one chinese elm. The seiju had some problems when soil washed out exposing some of the layer, the chinese was wrapped in foil (over the clear plastic) because the roots grow away from the light foil is easily unwrapped to check progress.
Both trees were similar in size and health, one Seiju elm, one chinese elm. The seiju had some problems when soil washed out exposing some of the layer, the chinese was wrapped in foil (over the clear plastic) because the roots grow away from the light foil is easily unwrapped to check progress.
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Because the seiju layer was exposed for a short time one side produced few roots but in general the roots were reasonably strong
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The chinese elm had many more roots which were more delicate
Separating these delicate roots from the spagnum moss always frightens me but after a soak in seasol and picking the moss with tweezers I managed to straighten and clean these roots.You do not have the required permissions to view the files attached to this post.
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I think the seiju base will make a nice shohin broom, I now have four projects which are all better than the original two!
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Nice photo series and resulting trees, thanks heaps Gerard.
I am interested to see where you go with the seiju's, I love them.
Matt
I am interested to see where you go with the seiju's, I love them.
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Re: Air layering, two methods
Gerard,
Great job. Is it possible to leave the sphagnum moss on the roots or must it be taken off?
Cheers,
Scott
Great job. Is it possible to leave the sphagnum moss on the roots or must it be taken off?
Cheers,
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Re: Air layering, two methods
I always leave my Spagnum moss on and hose it off when i repot the tree next potting season. I dont think there is a hard and fast rule on this just personal preference. Some more trees to work on Gerard. Whoopeenitram72 wrote:Gerard,
Great job. Is it possible to leave the sphagnum moss on the roots or must it be taken off?
Cheers,
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Thanks Matt,MattA wrote:Nice photo series and resulting trees, thanks heaps Gerard.
I am interested to see where you go with the seiju's, I love them.
Matt
I think this seiju was the biggest bargain ever,
BSV sale day May 2010 $15 That makes $7.50 each

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Re: Air layering, two methods
thanks Gerard great thread great looking trees excellent pic's
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Nice job Gerard , 2 for the price of one is the only way too go .I have to agree with Bodhi in reguards to removing the spagnum moss . The new roots are too fragile to warrant the risk of snapping some of them off .The moss will be almost compost by next potting season and no risk .Cheers Alpine
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I think you are right Alpine and Bodhi, I am too keen to achieve a nice radial root spread and as a result I take unnecessary risks with these delicate roots. Potting season is only a few short months away and the roots can be repositioned then.
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thanks
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Hey those roots on your layers are fantastic Gerard. I hope mine end up like that..I will certainly take your advice about timing in the future!
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Re: Air layering, two methods
Hi Gerard ,
Thanks for the pictorial, allways great to see how other people do things.Books can only guide but to see is another matter. I also cleaned up the roots of spagnum moss on mine.I like Alpineart and bodhidharma advice about leaving the roots untouched . It sure would help keep the heart rate down
Regards John.
Thanks for the pictorial, allways great to see how other people do things.Books can only guide but to see is another matter. I also cleaned up the roots of spagnum moss on mine.I like Alpineart and bodhidharma advice about leaving the roots untouched . It sure would help keep the heart rate down

Regards John.