I promise its the last one

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I promise its the last one

Post by squizzy »

Hi all,

This is just another pine I have purchased as stock from Ray at Dural.

I thought I might post the before photo and the design and show how I can or cannot stick to a plan.

Any thoughts welcome as to where I might be going wrong.

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Post by cre8ivbonsai »

I don't know too much about pines specifically, your plans look achievable though, but I do like your sketch! Good luck!
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another lovely sketch Squizz :yes:
You have a very good eye for seeign the tree within :yes: a great gift to have that vison when you see some nice raw stock
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Post by saibonsai »

hi mate,

from your skecth, consider tilting the tree to the tright 10-20 degrees (clockwise) and losing the first right branch, will make a great tree. if you want to keep the slant, that will work to but same thing, no first right branch. will create a better tree, the first right branch takes from the main tree and trunk line that has nice movement.
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I considered that but I am always hesitant to cut low branches as once theyre gone there is no turning back wth black pines. Very hard to get back budding. I will think seriously about this option though.

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It will be a great tree if you can achieve your sketch, which i love. A great start and look forward to you achieving it.
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Post by Andrew F »

I would love to see a collection of your sketches Squiz.

Nice pine too.
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Thanks for the comments guys.

Here is the tree after a rough shaping and wiring.

I am undecided on the lowest right branch so for the moment it stays. There is a back branch slightly higher on the trunk so my thoughts at this stage are to keep it and get a foliage pad started at the back of the tree so not to take away from the dramatic trunk line until the first left branch.
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Post by Dario »

Hi Squizz, you are on the right track to reach the design of your pic (which is very creative) :tu2:
I understand that you can decide later about the first branch etc...but I think it is too thick in proportion to the trunk, and after reading saibonsai's comment, I tend to agree...
saibonsai wrote:hi mate,
...the first right branch takes from the main tree and trunk line that has nice movement.
The wire scaring was obviously used as a technique by Ray when developing this stock and I was wondering if you will create a twisting shari following the wire line in the future, or will you leave it how it is?
It would be awesome if the trunk base was a tiny bit thicker, but it is still lovely all the same!
I think you have done a great job and look forward to the development.
Once again, well done :tu2:
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Post by Andrew Legg »

What great material!!!! We don't get enough time put into developing great material these days. It is a pity.

Good luck with what may become a fantastic tree!
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Thanks Dario and Andrew,

I hadnt thought about the scaring becoming a shari. I like the idea though.

Lets see how it recovers first.

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Spring candles are forming on this tree and I feel this is going to be one of my best pines. As always open for the hardest critique you can dish out.
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Post by Barry1 »

Love what your doing with this tree Squizz ;and as has been said by others it should make a very good pine in years to come ... I would be inclined to leave the lower branch
Oh by the way your art work is stunningly good :tu:

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Thank you for the kind words Barry,

I think the lowest branch that was in question has been removed anyway. My first branch as it stand in this photo is now a back branch. Not sure of its suitability yet.

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Post by MoGanic »

Excellent tree Mr. Squizz.

Love the sketch too, great work! Remain true to the sketch and your tree will be amazing!

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