Cut paste necessary?

[JPG]

I was wondering if I could get some advice on cut paste. What does it do and what is the purpose of using it. Also when should you use it and when shouldn't it be used. Are there different types?

Thanks

[Cools]

I recently asked this question at tech (I am studying a cert 3 in arboriculture). I was told, in our industry at least that sealing the wound can trap in moisture causing rot and hollows therefor we don't do it on regular trees. This may not apply to bonsai though. The trees natural defences should be able to deal with infections if it is healthy. I personally don't use cut paste on my bonsai but I haven't been doing it long. maybe there are others reasons i don't know about...?

food for thought anyway.

Cools

[Pearcy001]

Hey JPG,

You will find there is both people for and against the use of cut paste on this forum, so I suggest you give it a try for yourself.

My understanding was when using clean disinfected tools cut paste can be applied immediately before any infections can set in. If tools are filthy or you leave it too long to seal it, you can be sealing in the infection.

From my experience I only use it on larger cuts. I have found for me that when double sealed (with both cut paste, then once it's dry with the putty spread very thinly over the top - a tip is to lick your finger before spreading the putty to get it thin) it heals quickly and evenly. Once the cut has healed it pushed off the paste/putty on its own.

Note: I have found cut paste stains the soft bark of trees like figs, you should only use the putty on these.

Attached is a photo of a cut I double sealed, 6 months after cutting. It appears to me the centre of the cut doesn't seam to completely dry out like without sealing, allowing it to callous over nicely and evenly. As time passes the remaining putty around the edge will come off, or you can scrape it if you are impatient.



Given what I've said I too am relatively new to Bonsai so others with more experience may be a better guide. I still suggest you give it a try and see for yourself. Maybe perform two identical cuts and only seal the one. Leave it and wait for the results.

Good luck!

Cheers,
Pearcy.

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[ace2weather]

Are the paints any good???
It's used for wounds like the paste and smells very strong...
Trees haven't stopped dead yet.

[treeman]

Argument here: http://www.bonsainut.com/threads/azalea ... ost-329394

[evan]

And apparently the different brands use their own secret combo of hormones in the paste. Hence why some are advertised for certain species.

[Rory]

Argument here: http://www.bonsainut.com/threads/azalea ... ost-329394

Wow, Thanks Mike. Way to incinerate half an hour from my life!

Seriously though, that is a fascinating thread. Took a crap load of time to read it though.

I have never used cut paste on anything... (actually, that is a lie). I used it a few times on a bougainvillea, but after a few years of finally looking at the difference, the cuts I used it on didn't appear to heal more so than the cuts I made without, so I don't bother anymore. For natives, I have never used it, but I don't have enough experience on exotics to comment.

You seem a keen azalea grower Mike. What are your thoughts on that article you posted?

It seems to make sense what Harunobu is saying. Though wow, they both get quite heated.

[Mojo Moyogi]

Are the paints any good???
It's used for wounds like the paste and smells very strong...
Trees haven't stopped dead yet.

If you are talking about the liquid stuff that is mauve/grey in colour in a plastic tub and is made in Greece, I've used it for 5 years and it is pretty good, dries almost invisible and doesn't make a mess like the Japanese stuff. And it lasts forever, still on my first tub. I fill up a 25ml syringe (without the needle) and keep it in my kit ready to use and keep the bulk of it sealed in the tub.

Cheers,
Mojo

[ace2weather]

If you are talking about the liquid stuff that is mauve/grey in colour in a plastic tub and is made in Greece, I've used it for 5 years and it is pretty good, dries almost invisible and doesn't make a mess like the Japanese stuff. And it lasts forever, still on my first tub. I fill up a 25ml syringe (without the needle) and keep it in my kit ready to use and keep the bulk of it sealed in the tub.
Mojo

I've got the bunnings ones, it's in a small tin and it's jet black, dries like paint.
http://www.bunnings.com.au/brunnings-25 ... t_p3012456
I'm kind of worried it'll stain the bark on my trees....
I guess only time will tell...

[Mojo Moyogi]

Ok, that's the bitumen paint, different to what I am using.

IMG_20160304_202546586.jpg

Cheers,
Mojo

[ace2weather]

I kind of wish I didn't get it, but I don't have any close bonsai shops around me...

[Pearcy001]

Why not get it delivered ace?

http://kaneshin.shop.multilingualcart.c ... a_conv=jpy

I personally have the Kiyonal cut paste in the tube as well as the tree sealer in the tub.

I believe Grant Bowie may also sell it, unsure if you live anywhere near him but?

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[melbrackstone]

http://ofbonsai.org/the-last-page/edito ... -of-bonsai

Interesting point of view...

Personally I've only ever used Exterior Aquadhere.... and then rarely.