permit to dig weeds

[kcpoole]

I reckon its open slather on this species.
Craigw

After reading all thos links, I reckon so too

Will go for a drive and see what i can see. All I have to do is remeber to take my camera too

Ken

[Grant Bowie]

Try and pick Radiata pines growing where old ones exist from pre 1940s.

Newer radiata forests are a selection that is favored for weaker branching and strong, straight growing.

Blue Mountainns, Bathurst, Orange are good sources of plants and seeds. I used to go on seed collecting runs through Cowra and Canberra as well as Sthn Highlands.

Grant

[kcpoole]

I had to go out of town today for work so took my digging tools with me but forgot the camera

finished at about 3 o'clock so had some time to look on the way home and found some rubbish in the ute when I got home 3 little Radiata Pines
I will post some photos of them tomorrow when it is light as they are sitting in the wheelbarrow full of Seasol at the moment.
Each have either mature bark or near so, but are too stiff to bend (maybey). They have lowish Buds and branches so were the best of the "Seedlings" to pick from.

We say that we do not have and decent twisted pine Yamadori in Oz, but check out these that I found.

Sorry about the photos, but they were taken on the Phone.

these trees were all in and area withing 20 M of each other, and within 100M of 2 major roads ! Amazing what we can find when we look.
I have Dug around each one to chop a few of the roots, and cut back long foliage to see if they will back bud.
The plan will be to go back next year ( winter?) and collect them both
There are Many hundreds more in this little area and I reduced the height of many, Bent some others and yet more I tied branches down to get some interest.
Planning ahead already

While waiting I will try to make the 3 i have healthy so I can work them next year.

Ken

[kcpoole]

I took some area shots so you can see why they are now classed as a weed.

[Dumper]

when u did. did u reduce your speed?

there's a sign saying reduce speed lol

nice place man

[kcpoole]

Yep I took it nice and Slow to dig them properly

[kcpoole]

As promised, here are the 3 that followed me home
I go a reasonable amount of roots and the smallest one i potted up with most of the soil undisturbed.
The other 2 I had to clean most of the soil out to fit in the pots and box.
Hopefully plenty of root on each, but i'm using these ones as a learning experience in collecting pines

potted up in Diatomite / Zeolite and will receive Seasol till they show signs of positive growth


Ken

[Bretts]

Hope they pull through for you KC. I think misting the foliage helps alot with the conifers. As well as shade. Have you got them under cover?

[Mitchell]

Ken yours nuts!
Give us a yell if you need hand diggin'! Wouldn't mind me one of those twisted pines, yum!

Thinking of going bush tomorrow on a yamadori hunt. See what I can find.

[davo]

Just a thought , why not after you dig up one of these "weeds" Plant a native in its place?

Im sure the authorities would smile on this even if technically you are doing something wrong.

[Joel]

Just a thought , why not after you dig up one of these "weeds" Plant a native in its place?

Im sure the authorities would smile on this even if technically you are doing something wrong.

This is definitely NOT recommended. They do recommend this on some american sites but in australia it is too risky. The introduction of fungal or other diseases is too likely. Even if purchased from a registered nursery it is not recomended. Only appropriate authorities/bush regen. groups should do this.

Joel

[kcpoole]

Hope they pull through for you KC. I think misting the foliage helps alot with the conifers. As well as shade. Have you got them under cover?

Thanks everyone
Yes brets they are nestling under a Gum tree out the back and should onoly get filtered light thru the day

Will Spray them daily before work too

Hey Mitchell, I might well need help collecting the others Next year, so will keep it in mind :-)Quite happy to split the goods if I do.

I will be revisiting the site every now and again to monitor them

Ken

[Jarrod]

Radiata are easy to collect, and after care is simple. Keep them in the shade for a few weeks but start to get them out in sun shortly after. Some of us melbourne boys have collected trees up to 6" across with terrific results.

My suggestion is to go through the bush and cut these guys off at the lowest buds and leave them for a year and redo it next year until you get good material. I am not saying their is anything wrong with collecting straight material but the work involved in getting it to a workable tree is timely.

heres a sneek peak of one of the big ones...

[kcpoole]

Hey thanks Jarrod
I had heard they are easy to collect and as they are grown in soil that is nice rather than in hard clay, I have decent hopes for them

While at my special spot, it pruned back many I left there in order to get backbudding and interesting growth happening.
Next time I visit I will take some twine so I can tie down branches as well

the 3 I brought home are really just tests so i can refine the care required and learn

2 of them I can see a tree in there, but as they were all growing together in the same hole almost to dig one I pretty much had to get them all

Ken

[TreeHugger]

Hi guys.....was driving along a semi rural road here in Adelaide today and came across some nice little pines growing on the side of a hill where the road has been cut out thru a hill......kinda like this \ road here / if you know what I mean. They are all mostly slanted so I think I could get some great movement in the trunks of a few

After reading some earlier posts I'm still a bit unsure as to how to go about collecting them . It's quite a busy road and a saw 2 police cars driving down it within the space of a 10min period. Seems as though asking council for approval, is as painful as slamming your nuts in a car door

Should I ask for permission
Is it illegal to collect pines from the roadside in Adelaide
What would the fine likely be if I was caught and fined
If I was successful in collecting them, whats the best mix to put them in to ensure a successful recovery

I really like the idea of using fluro vest whilst collecting, however I think my sedan would be a dead give away that I was not an official council worker

I really, really, really want these pines......so proud of my little find

Thanks in advance

Lee